The new DS record is now at 498 mph!!!! that is incredible (Thats Mach 0.65... not 0.8 stated yesterday... kindly pointed out by the fat one) The glider used is a Kinetic 100 found here. Spencer Lisenby achieved this at Bird Springs... Fantastic, never tried it but i feel the need for speed! Wont be using the Rotmilan, wonder if my sacrificial Zagi will work?